To the Church in Smyrna the Apostle John wrote: He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death (Rev. Even if a person had once been a Latter-day Saint, Kimball said it still was practically impossible for a human to become a son of perdition: The sin against the Holy Ghost requires such knowledge that it is manifestly impossible for the rank and file to commit such a sin (Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 123) (Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual Religion 324 and 325, p. 161). He also saw a pale horse with a rider whose name was Death, and Hell followed with him (Rev. He wrote: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death (Rev. Outer darkness is a eternal place of torment reserved for those who are sons of perdition. According to LDS scripture, this will be a place that where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth (Doctrine and Covenants 101:91; also see 133:73). 28:2223). In Christianity, the "exterior darkness" or outer darkness is a place referred to three times in the Gospel of Matthew (8:12, 22:13, and 25:30) into which a person may be "cast out", and where there is "weeping and gnashing of teeth". Yea, and it bringeth to pass the condition of repentance, that whosoever repenteth the same is not hewn down and cast into the fire; but whosoever repenteth not is hewn down and cast into the fire; and there cometh upon them again a spiritual death, yea, a second death, for they are cut off again as to things pertaining to righteousness. And since we know that prophets speaking define it, this is the definition we should use. 18:8), hell fire (Matt. It honors and glorifies Satan. Bruce M. Metzger and Michael D. Coogan (New York: Oxford University Press, 1993), s.v. Hence the saying: They will go into the lake that burns with fire and brimstone. Brigham Young University Professor Larry E. Dahl reported: The word hell appears sixty-two times in the text of the Book of Mormon. And I said unto them that our father also saw that the justice of God did also divide the wicked from the righteous; and the brightness thereof was like unto the brightness of a flaming fire, which ascendeth up unto God forever and ever, and hath no end (1 Ne. Can you explain what Outer Darkness is and who will spend eternity there? Following this introduction will be a discussion of the usage of these termsfirst in the New Testament, then in the Book of Mormon. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. 15:29, 35; Alma 19:29; 54:7), sleep of hell (2 Ne. It even warns its readers to beware of the devils temptation to disbelieve the doctrine of a personal devil and that there is an actual place and/or state called hell. 21:8; see also 19:20). Jesus warned that those who mocked their brothers by saying Thou fool were in danger of hell fire (Matt. Is Jesus the Only Redeemer? Do "apostates" go to outer darkness or telestial kingdom? (Doctrines of Salvation 2:220-221). This is what was taught by several important church leaders, including founder Joseph Smith. GOSH. 15:2830). 2. (See D&C 76:2835, 4448.) Just because Hitler, Mao, and Stalin along with Judas Iscariot (as mentioned above) never became Latter-day Saints apparently provides them with a much higher privilegea life in the telestial kingdom over those who once believed but left the true fold, kicking and screaming in their continued fight against the restored church of Jesus Christ. Then, I say unto you, they shall be as though there had been no redemption made; for they cannot be redeemed according to Gods justice; and they cannot die, seeing there is no more corruption (Alma 12:13,1618). It is provided through Christ's atonement and received by personal faith in Christ as Savior and Lord. WOMEN ARE BEAUTIFUL ANGELS WHO ARE INCAPABLE OF SINNING. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_perdition_(Mormonism). outer darkness - LDS Thought If he were ignorant, he could not have become perdition. The ExMo Candle Co. - lighting outer darkness together (To see his baptism for the dead record and other temple work done for him, click here.). Yea, Alma wrote, I did remember all my sins and iniquities, for which I was tormented with the pains of hell (Alma 36:13). Outer Darkness. Circumcision. The Plan of Salvation kind of negates the reason for missionary work No Mormon since the 1890 change has had the authority to marry any man to more than one woman. The Book of Mormon teaches that after death, the spirits of those who "chose evil works rather than good" in mortality will be "cast out . So a heads up, this does not include you or any one who has ever been or will be born on Earth. So, in the Mormon view, none of these so-called polygamist marriages are valid, religiously or legally. has got to say that the sun does not shine while he sees it; he has got to deny Jesus Christ when the heavens have been opened unto him, and to deny the plan of salvation with his eyes open to the truth of it (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 358). A) Most humans B) Satan C) His angels D) Sons of Perdition. The Lord said no man knoweth So, theres probably a good reason that there is some debate and confusion on it. King Benjamin defined the cause of this great torment: Therefore if that man repenteth not, and remaineth and dieth an enemy to God, the demands of divine justice do awaken his immortal soul to a lively sense of his own guilt, which doth cause him to shrink from the presence of the Lord, and doth fill his breast with guilt, and pain, and anguish, which is like an unquenchable fire, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever. . Marcus Dods (New York: Random House, 1950), 781. With the sons of perdition, however, even this blessing is denied. Banishment from the glory of God. Concerning the first resurrection John observed: Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years (Rev. This is the second death. So I found one, by Joseph F. Smith, Thus we see that the first death which came into the world is also the last death which shall be pronounced upon the sons of perdition. Joseph restated that anyone who apostatized from the church was a son of perdition in a poem for W.W. Phelps, Sons of Perdition as those who are ever lost, and can never return to the presence of God, the poem declared that such is the torment apostates receive. (Joseph Smith, The Answer to W.W. Phelps, Esq. . Okay, so Cain, we have one guaranteed person according to no citation whatsoever. They believe that they are mortal men capable of mistakes just like the rest of us. For example: everlasting fire (Matt. If you want to make the point that Mormon Prophets have said some weird stuff, I am all for it. Thank you! Outer Darkness is the permanent location of Satan and his followers and the Sons of Perdition, who are not redeemed by the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Any person who inherits one of the . As explained in D&C 88:11-13: Second, it is the permanent location of Satan and his followers and the sons of perdition, who are not redeemed by the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Are the Three Degrees of Glory Mentioned in the Book of Mormon? Yes In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), a son of perdition is a person who will not take part in the glory of God in the afterlife. Outer darkness is something which cannot be described, except that it is to be placed beyond the benign and comforting influence of the Spirit of Godbanished entirely from his presence. So apostates from the church are clearly included in this list. But what is light? The second possible sons of perdition are mortals. Thus, many would say I fight against the church. The conclusion: You (former Mormon), despite being baptized into this church, are not a son of perdition! True, some former Mormons have expressed doubts and wondered if the church might possibly be true, which is a completely natural response after having left the one true church. If they decided they made a mistake because they still believed the church were true, they would be more apt to rejoin it rather than stay excommunicated and fight against it. While John could be referring to the sons of perdition in this passage, the specific sins he identified are characteristic of those who will suffer in hell but, after experiencing their part in the lake of fire, will be released from their torment and be resurrected to a telestial glory (see D&C 76:10312). and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell (James 3:6). ; Mormon Temple Worship. Satan and his followers are beings of spirit who were denied bodies and cast out of heaven during pre-mortal existence (see Plan of Salvation). hell.. What qualifies a person to be a Son of Perdition? Again Mormons think this is a very hard place to get into. Chapter 40. [1], Other views include those of Zane C. Hodges who controversially suggested that it represents a place for those who make it to heaven based on their faith, but have failed to perform good works during their time on the earth.[2]. Meanwhile, sixth President Joseph F. Smith, also taught that a full knowledge of the truth is necessary, adding that not even Judas Iscariotthe betrayer of Jesuswill be destined for Outer Darkness: It is probable that only personages who have acquired similar full knowledge, who willfully and deliberately deny the truth, when they know it to be the truth, can commit the unpardonable sin and become sons of perdition. Satan and his followers are beings of spirit who were denied bodies and cast out of heaven during pre-mortal existence (see Plan of Salvation ). This is a Son of perdition. That night not one boy was interested in going to hell! The celestial, terrestrial, and telestial are kingdoms of glory. They will not have a kingdom of glory. As with anything in Mormon doctrine, theres a lot of confusion, contradictory information and just all around ignoring a topic that should be as simple as asking a question and getting an answer. In short, Outer Darkness is eternal torture. Hell Second Death, Lake of Fire and Brimstone, and Outer Darkness Whats interesting is that there are many former Mormons who still believe Jesus Christ was the Son of God and have a testimony of the Spirit of the Lord. However, their faith no longer is in the Jesus of Mormonism but the Jesus of the Bible. Provo, UT 84602 67, LDS Church Archives. Required fields are marked *. (-Joseph Smith in the King Follett Discourse), There is my definition I used in my previous post. Historic Christianity. One fire certainly shall be the lot of both. [4]. The Book of Mormon also teaches that by coming unto Christ, one can escape the pains of hell experienced in this life. Outer Darkness. That Satan rebelled against Christ and God the Father and was cast out with all of Satans followers and will not receive a body. For those who once were baptized and confirmed into Mormonism, what is your status? As soon as you define doctrine in a way that includes wikipedia, get back to me. 9:16), unquenchable fire (Mosiah 2:38), and hell fire (3 Ne. 16:811)meaning to be left with those who would partake of that permanent hell reserved only for those who, as Jacob stated, are filthy still.. They knew better but still chose wrong, one told me. Who will partake of it, and what is the nature of the eternal torment? In each New Testament passage that speaks of hell (the word hades is neutralneither a place of punishment nor reward but the place of departed spirits) the context associates it with suffering and punishment. This is a place very close in nature to the biblical hell. [1] The pains of hell can also be experienced in mortality (Jacob 3:11). lift[ed] up his eyes and saw Abraham and Lazarus across an impassable gulf (Luke 16:23).